i agree

[MyNameIsJoe]

religion has ruined my country we need to get rid of people who cant separate church and state

[Trappernicus]

[ABlackViolet]

👏👏👏 Give us back our right to bodily autonomy, you moronic mythology-pushing sky daddy worshippers!

[Omen]

On 4/13/2025 at 8:14 PM, Trappernicus said:

I can't put enough laugh emotes for this

[Omen]

On 4/13/2025 at 9:51 PM, ABlackViolet said:

👏👏👏 Give us back our right to bodily autonomy, you moronic mythology-pushing sky daddy worshippers!

Hey take it easy, I'm not a moron. Sky daddy worshipper is accurate though. Pipe down Judas! LoL 

[ABlackViolet]

I didn't know I was talking about you. 😒 I was talking about those who overturned Roe v Wade. 😒 Regardless, I stand by my statement. Those who oppose Roe v Wade based on religious beliefs are always ignorant on reproduction and rights to bodily autonomy.

[Trappernicus]

Regardless of religion, abortion is murder.

Edited Wednesday at 09:43 AM by Trappernicus

[ABlackViolet]

On 4/16/2025 at 5:43 AM, Trappernicus said:

Regardless of religion, abortion is murder.

Yup. That's what I thought. Another man theist that doesn't gaf about pregnant people. Pro-lifers aren't pro-life. They're pro forced birth. Once the fetus is born, their rights don't matter. Pro-lifers just care about the unborn. Fuck the mother. Fuck the kids once they're born. Theists like you know absolutely nothing about reproduction and pregnancy.

Edited yesterday at 01:18 AM by ABlackViolet

[Omen]

On 4/15/2025 at 7:11 AM, ABlackViolet said:

I didn't know I was talking about you. 😒 I was talking about those who overturned Roe v Wade. 😒 Regardless, I stand by my statement. Those who oppose Roe v Wade based on religious beliefs are always ignorant on reproduction and rights to bodily autonomy.

My feeling on abortion depends on the circumstances. If the person was raped they should be able to abort. If it is gonna cause massive health issues for the female they should be able to. If the child is gonna be born very very unhealthy they should be able to abort. If it's just being aborted as birth control they should abort it real early during the pregnancy. Also if they've had previous abortions and are just using it as birth control out of irresponsibility they should probably just get their tubes tied. It's when a woman has like 3 or 4 abortions because both parties were being irresponsible that I have problems with abortion.

[MyNameIsJoe]

i personally think its between a woman and her doctor. 

[ABlackViolet]

You're entitled to your opinion; however, things to consider: 

Most abortions 'are' early on, but it also takes time to find out you're pregnant; unless you're actively checking.

I've yet to hear of a single pregnant person who has multiple abortions "as a form of birth control" the way pro-lifers claim.

Even if they were really happening, how does that affect your life in any way? It's gross to endorse invasion of medical privacy. How would you like it if society dictated when you have a right to make choices about your body?

It's also super telling when pretty much every "pro-lifer" wants to control the potential mother's body, but there's zero mention of the potential father's body. Why not mandate vasectomies until they actually want to procreate?

Abortions aren't fun. Unwanted pregnancy isn't fun. It blows my mind that there are full-grown adults who know little to nothing about real abortion statistics, and they're always the most loud about their opinions.

Edited Thursday at 02:38 AM by ABlackViolet

[ABlackViolet]

46 minutes ago, MyNameIsJoe said:

i personally think its between a woman and her doctor. 

As it should be. End of discussion.

[Trappernicus]

9 hours ago, ABlackViolet said:

As it should be. End of discussion.

So easily ended? An aborted discussion?

What about the man's voice? The embryo is fifty/fifty. It shares both DNA.

[ABlackViolet]

2 minutes ago, Trappernicus said:

So easily ended? An aborted discussion?

What about the man's voice? The embryo is fifty/fifty. It shares both DNA.

When the man can get pregnant, he's free to make the final decision.

[Omen]

I knew 3 women in high school that had 3 or more abortions before they graduated. They were using it as birth control. That's why I said that. The others non-educated being loud about it, I get why that bothers you. 

[Jassunder]

For fucking real!!! I was raised thinking this place is all about freedom but no, it's about people in power using religion for their own greed. 

[ABlackViolet]

4 hours ago, Omen said:

I knew 3 women in high school that had 3 or more abortions before they graduated. They were using it as birth control. That's why I said that. The others non-educated being loud about it, I get why that bothers you. 

Didn't I already say that IF pregnant people are doing it as bc--which again the majority of them are not--how does that affect your life in any way?

[Omen]

Never said it did but I can still have an opinion on it

[ABlackViolet]

11 hours ago, Omen said:

Never said it did but I can still have an opinion on it

Of course, you can; however, I find interesting that you said absolutely nothing in response to my point that men can get vasectomies while they don't wish to procreate, but you conveniently ignored this fact.

As for pregnant people, abortion is healthcare.

[Omen]

They can. I agree. I dont want kids and I considered it. I just am smart about sex. If I accidently get a woman pregnant id end up with a kid and be responsible about it. Thats just what id choose though. From what im gathering I dont have a say in if she chooses to abort it or not.

[ABlackViolet]

If you don't want kids, get a vasectomy. What is stopping you? If you don't want kids and your partner gets pregnant, keeping the pregnancy sounds really irresponsible and illogical. Kids deserve parents that actually want them.

[ABlackViolet]

Also, another note on your judgement that the ones with uteruses getting multiple abortions "should just get their tubes tied:" First of all, it's much more invasive than a vasectomy, and they can't always be reversed. I know mine can't. I'm fine with that because I don't want kids. I had to make that very clear to my doctor before I could have surgery. Some people do want kids eventually or aren't sure, but don't want them yet.

[Omen]

I think it's more irresponsible to get an abortion then going through with having the kid. If you abort it, that life never had a chance. Of course you also have to figure out when it's considered life in your perception. Many want kids that can't so it can be put up for adoption. Yes it makes more sense for the guy to get a vasectomy in that case. I'm not claiming I'm right. Not trying to take away a choice. Just saying how I feel.

[ABlackViolet]

It's irresponsible and selfish to create an entire person you didn't want, can't afford, or will put up for adoption. Having parents that either don't want you or can't afford you is traumatic. Being an orphan is also traumatic. Why does an embryo 'need' to become an entire person that has to be taken care of?