ABlackViolet

You're right. When pregnant people are not allowed bodily autonomy because their state has outlawed it, that's clearly the pregnant person's fault. When they can't afford birth control because the government has made it impossible for them to receive Medicaid, that's clearly the pregnant person's fault. 🙄 Your unwillingness to learn anything new, when you're clearly ignorant on this topic, is your choice. I agree.

If I had been aborted, that would have been my mom's choice. None of those stories makes a difference. Others are not affected by the choice of the person who has to carry the kid. If the father wants a kid so badly, he can pay a surrogate.

Birth control pills are not 100% effective. There are several ways that they can be disrupted. Taking other medications like antibiotics can lessen the effect. Taking it at an inconsistent time can also lessen the effect. Everyone's body is different. There are a million ways it can fail.

It's irresponsible and selfish to create an entire person you didn't want, can't afford, or will put up for adoption. Having parents that either don't want you or can't afford you is traumatic. Being an orphan is also traumatic. Why does an embryo 'need' to become an entire person that has to be taken care of?

Also, another note on your judgement that the ones with uteruses getting multiple abortions "should just get their tubes tied:" First of all, it's much more invasive than a vasectomy, and they can't always be reversed. I know mine can't. I'm fine with that because I don't want kids. I had to make that very clear to my doctor before I could have surgery. Some people do want kids eventually or aren't sure, but don't want them yet.

If you don't want kids, get a vasectomy. What is stopping you? If you don't want kids and your partner gets pregnant, keeping the pregnancy sounds really irresponsible and illogical. Kids deserve parents that actually want them.

Of course, you can; however, I find interesting that you said absolutely nothing in response to my point that men can get vasectomies while they don't wish to procreate, but you conveniently ignored this fact. As for pregnant people, abortion is healthcare.

Didn't I already say that IF pregnant people are doing it as bc--which again the majority of them are not--how does that affect your life in any way?

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When the man can get pregnant, he's free to make the final decision.

As it should be. End of discussion.

You're entitled to your opinion; however, things to consider: Most abortions 'are' early on, but it also takes time to find out you're pregnant; unless you're actively checking. I've yet to hear of a single pregnant person who has multiple abortions "as a form of birth control" the way pro-lifers claim. Even if they were really happening, how does that affect your life in any way? It's gross to endorse invasion of medical privacy. How would you like it if society dictated when you have a right to make choices about your body? It's also super telling when pretty much every "pro-lifer" wants to control the potential mother's body, but there's zero mention of the potential father's body. Why not mandate vasectomies until they actually want to procreate? Abortions aren't fun. Unwanted pregnancy isn't fun. It blows my mind that there are full-grown adults who know little to nothing about real abortion statistics, and they're always the most loud about their opinions.